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AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs Temperature Limited Rather Than Clock Speed Or Power

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AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs are going to be announced soon and the new chips are made with the 5nm process. This means that while the size of the die is getting smaller the number of transistors is still increasing. Each 8-core 5nm Zen 4 CCD is made up of 6.57 Billion transistors compared to 4.15B of the previous 7nm Zen 3 CCD. With that said, a recent preview noted that the AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs are going to be limited by temperature and not by clocks or power.

AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs Limited By Temperature

The preview by angstronomics mentioned that cooling is going to be a challenge when it comes to the new AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs. The die can go up to 2 Watts/mm² with proper cooling. The heatspreader covers a smaller area as you might have seen when we showed leaked images of the AMD Ryzen 7700X. The smaller area covered makes things worse.

Sky Juice from angstronomics deduced the following:

Due to the cooling difficulty and higher power limits on Ryzen 7000 Dekstop, the philosophy has changed to follow a more laptop-like approach. Instead of fixing a clock speed or power limit, the processor is now temperature limited. This means maximizing performance for a given cooling capability. The processor will adjust to stay within the temperature limits. This also means a more significant performance difference that changes with cooling ability.

From what we have seen AMD Ryzen 7000 series might have a tough time complete with Intel 13th generation Raptor Lake. While I love to support the underdog, which AMD really isn’t anymore but the premium of switching to the new AM5 platform and the additional cost of upgrading to DDR5 RAM are going to play a major role. We got a few listings for the upcoming Ryzen 7000 series and the CPUs are not going to be cheap.

  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X – $1158 (906 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7900X – $798 (624 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7700X – $631 (493 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 7600X – $435 (340 USD)

Intel Raptor Lake on the other hand seems to have better pricing if these retail listings are to be trusted.

  • i9-13900K – $940.99 Canadian (735 USD)
  • i9-13900KF – $900.99 Canadian (694 USD)
  • i7-13700KF – $625.99 Canadian (482 USD)
  • i7-13700K – $662.99 Canadian (511 USD)
  • i5-13600K – $460.99 Canadian (355 USD)
  • i5-13600KF – $423.99 Canadian (326 USD)

Factor in the price of DDR5 memory and a new AM5 motherboard and you could be looking at a very expensive upgrade.

  • ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme – 1475 Euros (1500 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E HERO – 1088 Euros (1106 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E GENE – 977 Euros (994 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-E Gaming WiFi – 912 Euros (927 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-F Gaming WiFi – 809 Euros (823 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-A Gaming WiFi – 783 Euros (796 USD)
  • PROART X670E-Creator WiFi – 894 Euros (909 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P WiFi – 510 Euros (518 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P – 483 Euros (491 USD)

It is worth mentioning that DDR5 should get cheaper and that AMD is working on B650E motherboards that will support PCIe Gen5 for the storage and graphics card. This should make upgrading a bit affordable. The upcoming few months are going to be very interesting and I for one would like to see how well these upcoming AMD Ryzen chips can be cooled and how well they perform against the competition.

Let us know what you think about this deduction and whether you think AMD Ryzen 7000 Series is going to be limited by temperature.

Source: angstronomics

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AMD B650E Motherboards With PCIe Gen5 For Storage And Graphics Cards Confirmed

AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs are around the corner and we already know about the X670E, X670, and B650 series motherboards which have officially been announced but it seems that AMD B650E motherboards are coming too. Here is what you need to know.

AMD B650E Motherboards Confirmed

Update: The B650E has also been listed on the official AMD site.

According to leaked slides from an AMD meeting, the company is working on B650E motherboards. These are supposed to be mid-range motherboards that support PCIe Gen5 for not only the storage but the graphics card as well. Meaning that the motherboard will have a PCIe Gen5 graphics card slot and M.2 slot. You do not have to pick one like the B650 or the X670 motherboards.

Image Source: @wnxod

Previously it was officially confirmed that the mid-range consumers would get B650 motherboards which would either support PCIe Gen5 graphics cards or storage, not both. So, the B650E Extreme motherboards would cost a bit more but would support both PCIe Gen5 graphics cards and storage.

X670E and X670 motherboards have similar differences. The E variant supports PCIe Gen5 storage and graphics cards, so you get support across the board while the non-E variant will support one or the other and not both. So the X670E will motherboards will be more expensive. We did spot some listings online and you can check out the pricing of some of the variants below:

  • ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme – 1475 Euros (1500 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E HERO – 1088 Euros (1106 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E GENE – 977 Euros (994 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-E Gaming WiFi – 912 Euros (927 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-F Gaming WiFi – 809 Euros (823 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-A Gaming WiFi – 783 Euros (796 USD)
  • PROART X670E-Creator WiFi – 894 Euros (909 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P WiFi – 510 Euros (518 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P – 483 Euros (491 USD)

After the official announcement, fans did complain about not getting PCIe Gen5 support for storage and graphics on the mid-range chipset. So it seems that AMD had that in mind all along. At the time of writing picking PCIe Gen5 storage over graphics cards would seem like the obvious choice but it makes sense that consumers want both since they will be paying for the new platform and DDR5 isn’t cheap.

Let us know what you think about the upcoming AMD B650E motherboards and whether or not you are interested in upgrading to AMD Ryzen 7000 series.

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Corsair MP700 PCIe Gen5 SSDs (AM5) Hit 10,000MB/s Read, 9500 And 9500MB/s Write Speeds

With the launch of AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs and AM5 socket motherboards around the corner, Corsair has posted benchmarks for the Corsair MP700 PCIe Gen5 SSDs. Here is what you need to know about the upcoming PCIe Gen5 SSD.

Corsair MP700 PCIe Gen5 SSDs For AMD AM5 Read And Write Speeds

According to the official Corsair website “CORSAIR MP700 Gen5 PCIe x4 NVMe 2.0 M.2 SSD, providing up to 10,000MB/sec sequential read and 9,500MB/sec sequential write speeds depending on the model”. At the time of writing the upcoming SSD model is not listed for pre-order or purchase so we do not know how much it is going to cost but we should get more information as we get closer to the launch of the AMD Ryzen 7000 series.

Corsair has posted a benchmark for the CORSAIR MP700 Gen5 PCIe x4 NVMe 2.0 M.2 SSD which shows how it comes to other storage solutions and you can check out the comparative speeds below:

The official website does say that the speeds depend on the model and the term “up to” always turns me off. So do take these numbers with a grain of salt and wait for the AM5 platform to release and see how well these drives actually perform before spending your money on Gen5 SSDs.

Since the AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs were announced and Lisa Su mentioned that the upcoming X670E and X670 motherboards would support PCIe Gen5 graphics cards and storage, people wondered how quickly PCIe Gen5 storage solutions would be available to take advantage of the platform feature. It seems that enthusiasts will not have to wait at all and these storage devices should be available alongside the launch of the AMD AM5 socket motherboards.

Let us know what you think about these Corsair MP700 Gen5 SSDs performance numbers and whether or not you are interested in upgrading.

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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Pictured, Installed On AM5 Motherboard

We have had plenty of listings for the AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs and the X670E and X670 motherboards from Asus. Now we have got an actual picture of the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X installed on an AM5 motherboard.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X On AM5 Socket

The picture of the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X was posted by a user on AnandTech Forums. The particular user seems to have gotten a CPU ahead of time and most likely for review purposes. It does tell us that the final silicon is ready which is to be assumed keeping in mind that these CPUs are going to be officially launched soon. We can also see that reviewers have got their hands on samples for testing and reviewing.

You might see a small D at every bottom. This means that this is a non-retail unit. We have seen this on previous review samples. I can deduce that the AM5 socket seen in the image is of an X670E or X670 motherboard since B650 motherboards are far from launch at this point.

I have to say that looking at the CPU installed, it does seem a bit off compared to the CPUs that we have seen in the past. But if this is going to be the future then we should get used to it with time. We can see why the integrated heat spreader is internally called Octopus. Seeing the design, I would imagine that delidding the CPU is going to be harder.

The AMD Ryzen 7 7700X features 8 cores and 16 threads with a base clock speed of 4.5 GHz and a boost clock speed of 5.4 GHz. The CPU is supposed to have a TDP of 105W and should cost around $480.

Asus has confirmed that it will showcase its X670E and X670 motherboards at Gamescom 2022. We should be able to learn more about motherboard pricing at the unveiling. We have confirmation that the following motherboards are included in the lineup from Asus:

  • ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme – 1475 Euros (1500 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E HERO – 1088 Euros (1106 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E GENE – 977 Euros (994 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-E Gaming WiFi – 912 Euros (927 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-F Gaming WiFi – 809 Euros (823 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-A Gaming WiFi – 783 Euros (796 USD)
  • PROART X670E-Creator WiFi – 894 Euros (909 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P WiFi – 510 Euros (518 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P – 483 Euros (491 USD)

Other confirmed motherboards include the MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi and PRO X670-P WiFi which will range from 416.50 Euros to 562.19 Euros. Note that these prices are not official and have been taken from retailer listings, so do take this with a grain of salt.

Since the launch of the AM5 platform is around the corner Corsair has announced its upcoming MP700 PCIe Gen5 SSDs that are ready for AM5 and can do up to 10,000MB/s read, 9500, and 9500MB/s write speeds.

Let us know what you think about this picture of the AMD Ryzen 7700X on an AM5 motherboard and whether or not you are interested in upgrading to the AMD Ryzen 7000 series.

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Asus X670E, X670 Motherboard Prices Listed For Up To 1475 Euros

Asus is known for making some of the best motherboards that you can buy and we have the listing prices for 9 upcoming Asus X670E and X670 motherboards. These include the Crosshair, STRIX, and Prime variants. It also seems that Gene is making a comeback.

Asus X670E, X670 Motherboard Prices

Credit: @momomo_us

Do note that these are listings and might not be the final MSRPs. These could be placeholders or inflated prices. The following are all the Asus X670 and X670E motherboards that are listed:

  • ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme – 1475 Euros (1500 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E HERO – 1088 Euros (1106 USD)
  • ROG Crosshair X670E GENE – 977 Euros (994 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-E Gaming WiFi – 912 Euros (927 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-F Gaming WiFi – 809 Euros (823 USD)
  • ROG STRIX X670E-A Gaming WiFi – 783 Euros (796 USD)
  • PROART X670E-Creator WiFi – 894 Euros (909 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P WiFi – 510 Euros (518 USD)
  • PRIME X670-P – 483 Euros (491 USD)

Note that the USD pricing is a 1-to-1 conversion and the pricing in the USA could be different. Still, these prices are pretty high but then again these should be taken with a grain of salt as they are not officially from Asus. Asus has confirmed that it will showcase its X670E and X670 motherboards at Gamescom 2022, so we might learn more about pricing at the event.

The ROG Crosshair X670E GENE is the model that seems to stand out. Fans have wanted the GENE variant to make a comeback and it seems that Asus has been listening. This is most likely going to be a high-end MATX motherboard with all the bells and whistles but a bit smaller footprint.

Credit: @momomo_us

Previously, we got listings for the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs and if we add the price of these new X670E motherboards and DDR5 memory, it seems that upgrading to the new AM5 platform is going to be pretty expensive. AMD is expected to release mid-range CPUs and we should get B650 motherboards around the same time, so that should make things a bit less expensive.

Let us know what you think about these Asus X670E motherboard prices and whether or not you are interested in upgrading.

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AMD Ryzen 7000 Series CPUs Price Listed, Aren’t Cheap

The official announcement of the AMD Ryzen 7000 series is around the corner and as we get closer to launch we keep getting more and more information regarding these upcoming CPUs. We have got some AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPU price listings that reveal that the processors aren’t cheap.

Note: The Prices mentioned below are in Canadian Dollars and have been converted to USD for estimation. The final USD pricing may vary.

AMD Ryzen 7000 Series CPUs Price

The following are the prices of the different AMD Ryzen 700 series CPUs in Candian Dollars:

  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (Tray) – $1140.99 (893 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (Tray) – $777.99 (608 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (Tray) – $613.99 (479 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 7600X (Tray) – $423.99 (331 USD)

Tray means that you only get the CPU for the price. The cooler and the box are not included in the price.

For comparison’s sake, the Intel Core i9-12900K is available for around 589 USD. The Intel Core i7-12700K and Intel Core i5-12600K are available for 399.99 USD and 279.98 USD respectively.

If you want the box too then the following is the pricing in Canadian Dollars:

  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X – $1158 (906 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7900X – $798 (624 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7700X – $631 (493 USD)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 7600X – $435 (340 USD)

Since these are X series CPUs, they do not come with coolers out of the box and you will need to buy one separately. So do keep that in mind. According to reports, these CPUs will have a higher TDP compared to the previous generation as well. The following is the TDP breakdown:

  • Ryzen 9 7950X – 170W
  • Ryzen 9 7900X – 170W
  • Ryzen 7 7700X – 105W
  • Ryzen 5 7600X – 105W

Take these prices with a grain of salt as they could change ahead of launch. AMD will supposedly make things official on Gamescom 2022 which is just a few days away. Asus has also confirmed that it will showcase the new AM5 motherboards at the event.

We also have the price listings for 9 X670E and X670 motherboard variants from Asus.

Let us know what you think about the price of the AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs and whether or not you are interested in upgrading to this new generation.

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ASRock X670E Taichi Motherboard Revealed

AMD has announced the upcoming AM5 socket and Ryzen 7000 CPUs. X670E is a top-tier chipset that you can get for the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs. ASRock recently teased the X670E Taichi motherboard in a video but now we have a complete image of what the motherboard looks like. Here is what you need to know.

ASRock X670E Taichi Motherboard

Since the X670E is a top-tier chipset, we see a lot of armor and a very fancy design. The PCIe slots and RAM slots are reinforced and the motherboard comes in black with gold and silver accents.

It seems that the motherboard will support 4 NVMe SSDs but we do not know how many of the slots support Gen5. From what we see in the image, the motherboard is going to feature 8 SATA 6 ports and a debugger which should display error codes in case something goes wrong. This is going to come in handy when troubleshooting.

 

Since the X670E is a high-end chipset, the ASRock X670E Taichi motherboard will support CPU and memory overclocking. The major selling point of the X670E motherboards is that they support PCIe Gen5 storage and graphics cards.

While not many graphics cards will be able to take advantage of PCIe Gen5 support at launch, it is a feature that can future-proof your build. It is interesting to see that the CPU power is provided by a pair of 8-pin power connectors which should provide enough power for some serious CPU overclocking.

Let us know what you think about the ASRock X670E Taichi motherboard and whether or not you are interested in upgrading to AMD AM5 and the upcoming Ryzen 7000 series of CPUs.

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MSI Confirms AIO Liquid Cooler Support For Next-Gen AMD AM5 Socket

AMD Ryzen 7000 series desktop processors based on the 5nm process and Zen 4 architecture are going to release in the second half of 2022 and MSI has confirmed AIO liquid cooler support for the AM5 socket these upcoming CPUs are going to use.

All AM5 Supported AIO Liquid Coolers From MSI

The official MSI website mentions the following regarding liquid cooler support for the AM5 socket:

AMD Socket AM5 (LGA 1718) is the next-generation socket designed to support next-generation AMD Ryzen 7000 desktop processors (Zen 4). AMD Socket AM5 uses the same liquid cooler bracket as Socket AM4*. This allows you to upgrade to and enjoy AM5 without buying a new liquid cooler.
*Requires motherboard’s dedicated AMD Socket AM5 backplate.
MSI also provided a complete list of coolers that support the AM5 socket. The confirmed coolers are mentioned below:
MEG Series

MPG Series

MAG Series

These are the supported coolers so far but I am sure that once AMD Ryzen 7000 series processors come out, more are going to be added. As we get closer to release, we should see support confirmation from other companies.

Let us know what you think about these AM5 supported water coolers from MSI and whether or not you are interested in buying one. We have included links if you are.